Sunday, June 5, 2016

Michel Sapin: “This is not the time to block the recovery” – Les Echos

In an interview with the “Echos”, Finance Minister Michel Sapin believes that the proposed El Khomri law is “a very good text”. Reacting to social movements, “not when growth resumes and unemployment decreases need put a spoke in the wheels of the economic recovery,” he considers.




Twenty-three years after the first Sapin law, you present to the Assembly a new text on the fight against corruption. What steps do we retain this law Sapin 2 in 25 years?

I want to fight against money corrupts! If French companies are guilty of acts of corruption abroad, thanks to this law that justice will finally have the means not only to continue but also to punish them. I remind you that since 2000, no company has been convicted in France for corruption. While these companies have been convicted abroad, including the United States. It is this measure that will mark the spirits, because there is of course a moral issue, equality of competition but also for developing countries that are victims of these practices.




the device of “judicial agreement of public interest”, proposed by MPs to replace the “plea bargain,” he responds to this challenge? Companies are anxious not end up in an unfavorable competitive situation against their competitors …

Overall, the amendments voted in committee are welcome changes. Regarding the “legal agreement”, the Law Commission has found there a focused proposal – not too widely, consistent with the canons of French justice, leaving an important place to the investigating judge, with commercial breaks required. The government will defer to the wisdom of the Assembly. Moreover, parliamentarians have made a very good job on the definition and protection of whistleblowers. We align ourselves there on the provisions already in force in Great Britain, the Netherlands or Germany.




What is the government’s position on reporting “country by country” public?

This is further brought by parliamentarians in the fight against tax fraud and a form of citizen control. Large companies must now pass a number of data, such as tax amounts paid in any country, the tax administration. I always said I was positive that they make public, provided that this obligation is imposed under an EU directive. If we do this in isolation, we will penalize our companies. Proposals Pierre Moscovici on the subject seem balanced to me, we will discuss in the coming weeks, and I think the European directive will be ready for next year.




Support you Denaja amendment on executive pay?

It seems necessary to enhance transparency on executive pay, including giving general meetings s ability ‘ oppose this remuneration. The board will then consider it. This will happen more as Renault, where the reaction of the board, which simply ignored the opinion of the AG, is shocking. However, the government does not favor a legislative framework of the amount, which would also censured by the Constitutional Council. We will also unfavorable amendments weighting taxation of bonus shares to the extent that it has been reduced in the Macron law, we have to first take stock after one year of implementation.




For you, what should be the maximum difference between the lowest and highest salary in a company?

the state applies a rule for public companies. We believe that such an important company EDF, the difference should be at most 1 to 25. That seems legitimate. But we can not impose such rules to the private sector.




Why does the government has as much to article 24, very controversial, on the protection of property foreign states?

avoid misinterpretations on this article. We seek to protect diplomatic property strictly appetite of investment funds who want to try to recover debts owed by a State. I have seen more shocking has nothing to do with Russia. They are vulture funds who were able to obtain state property be seized to pay off debt. We have witnessed the actions of this nature, especially towards Argentina, and we want to avoid, in accordance with our international commitments.




How do you see the return of the Labour law in the national Assembly after consideration by the Senate?

the debate revolves much around the famous Article 2 on the development of business negotiation with parallel , additional resources given to unions to influence the debate and get the necessary counterparties. This is fundamental and decisive. We trust the majority trade unions to negotiate favorable agreements with the company, employment and therefore the employees.




This device, which is the heart of current social conflict will remain unchanged?

This move in no way in its principles. We must keep the content. The bill goes much change in the Senate, which will allow the French to see what would be right if it was in power. Everyone can see the real differences and stop the fake trial.




Will he use again 49-3?

The decision is up to the Prime Minister and the President of the Republic. I repeat, this text is a good text, because negotiation is set in the heart of relations within the company, and staff activity account provides security for employees in unprecedented conditions.




Do you think social movements coming to an end?

It is very difficult to say. Be careful. There are improvements in a number of places, but also more spectacular operations in others. Everyone must recover the sense of dialogue. The balance of power created on the ground are not the right way forward.




Negotiations with the SNCF were they sacrificed to end conflicts?

No, and amazing comments were made. Discussions on the organization of the branch are completed for some time. Those at the enterprise level are continuing. You should know the conclusion.




These social movements will they not end up halting recovery?

S ‘ they were long, powerful and blocking a lot of industries, it could be the case. But they remained sectoral and partial. Naturally, there are many striking images, but I see no substantial economic effect on activity. And not when growth resumes and unemployment decreases need put a spoke in the wheels of the economic recovery.




Emmanuel Macron he said two weeks ago that he would go further than the El Khomri law. Is it in his role as Minister of Economy?

Every politician has the right to express an opinion, but the duty of every member of the government is to explain and support the draft Labour law. It must be adopted, and everyone needs to appease.




The launch of its movement in March! Is it compatible with continued government?

I wish that full member of the government. The fights that are ours, growth, employment, El Khomri law, require that the ministerial time is well spent.




Researchers, government officials, local authorities, etc. French Holland multiplies the new spending. Is compatible with a return of the public deficit below 3% in 2017?

France has not only fulfilled its commitments in 2015 but was even better. For this year and for next year, there is no question of jeopardizing our public deficit reduction objectives. I want to be very clear on this point: France will be well below 3% deficit in 2017. Our will is unshakable. This is because we conduct a serious budgetary policy as the voice of France is strong again and heard in Europe.




But as you going to finance all these expenses?

This year, the measures were not planned when drafting the 2016 budget amounts to just over EUR 4 billion. This in no way undermines our ability to reduce the deficit as planned. We froze more than 11 billion euros in loans, we have placed in precautionary reserve. As every year, some of them will be canceled to fund exceptional expenditure. Moreover, I observe that the European Commission has expressed no concern about our ability to meet our goal




Especially for 2017 that things get complicated …

the development budget for 2017 is just beginning. But I can assure you that the finance laws to be presented in September will face and be able to reduce the deficit to 2.7% of GDP. We will make the necessary savings.




Where? On your map 50 billion in savings for 2015 to 2017, there are still almost 20 billion to find …

We will find them. There is no alternative if we want to both continue to cut taxes and continue to reduce the deficit. We will begin to discuss in the coming days with all ministries. Social security and local authorities will also continue to make efforts. Let there be no mistake: there is no open window. The European Commission can judge next fall when she will review our draft budget.




Rest there is scope for lowering the household tax?

Everyone agrees to say that the economic situation improves. It is legitimate to benefit the French by a new measure favorable to households, based on the margins available to us. It will be calibrated so as not to undermine the deficit reduction objective.




she will target only low-income households?

This is not yet defined. The subject remains very open at this point

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